and the director of the National Institute for Space Research, IMP, Antônio Vieira Monteiro. President. Welcome. We are hearing from the mayor of São José dos Campos, Anderson Farias. Good afternoon everybody. I would like to extend a very special greeting to our President of the Republic, Luís Inácio Lula da Silva, and to Mrs. Jan Loura da Silva. It's a pleasure to have you here. You're always very welcome, you know, the president receiving you here in the best city in Brazil, Mr. José dos Campos. Greetings here to our vice-president Geraldo and Mrs. Luálkm. Mr. President, you know that São José dos Campos is part of the greater Monhangaba region, right? The Lord knew that, didn't he? That's how I manage to get some projects off the ground, by being part of this bigger thing, right? So, I invite you here, it's always a pleasure to have you, to greet the Minister of State for Science, Technology and Innovation, Luciana Santos, the Minister of State for the Environment and Climate Change in João Paulo, and to greet Antônio Miguel Vieira Monteiro, who is the director of IMP, and also all the staff and employees. On behalf of Ricardo Cartacho, who is the researcher who, you know, with 50 years at IMP, I mentioned, he started as an intern here at IMP, but anyway, I think 65 years of a lot of history, you know, of changes and contributions to the country, to the world, and a source of pride for our Brazil, but especially for São José dos Campos. I think that, you know, having the IMP here in São José dos Campos, having this institute, which actually excels in everything it does, and can contribute to development. So, São José dos Campos always has this kind of history, you know. In fact, São José has its own history of development, which began back in the 1950s with the establishment of ITA Casimiro Montenegro. And we have Fernando Mendonça, founder of IMP, 101 years old, turning 102 this December, who has medium-term and long-term projects. This is the DNA of the IMP. That's the DNA of IMP, right? So, I think that Fernando is a great man, right? This man who had this vision, a native of Ceará, but from São José dos Campos, right? Because he was born in Ceará, but he's a resident of São José dos Campos at heart. But I think he really shows, every day, with his disposition, at 101 years old, he really demonstrates the DNA of IMP, which is to always be ahead, always doing excellent work. So, congratulations to IMP on its 65th anniversary. The floor is now open to the director of IMP, Antônio Vieira Monteiro. [applause] Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Fernandinho. Well , the name of this auditorium is Fernand Mendonça, president, who is the mayor he just mentioned, 102 years old and still bouncing around. He calls me every now and then and says, "Miguel, there's a project, " and then I get scared. These are good projects. Well, I'm not going to improvise as president, especially since I don't have a mandate, so I'll just read, right? And I think that's better. Well, good afternoon, President Lula, Vice-President Geraldo, Minister Luciana, Minister Capobianco, and Mayor Anderson. Thank you very much in advance. In my name and in the name of this table, or these chairs in this case, right? I greet all the authorities present, all the collaborators, friends of IMP, and especially all the IMP members here in this auditorium, and the many others who are now in another auditorium, Mr. President, the Iaí auditorium, listening to the internal broadcast of this moment, because we couldn't have everyone here. We set up a transmission line there. President Lula, you and the minister will announce here from the IMP the deforestation alert figures for the Amazon and the Cerrado, and the annualized rates for the Atlantic Forest, Caatinga, and Pampa biomes. These figures are produced by Deter and Prodes, two of our monitoring systems for vegetation suppression in Brazilian biomes. On behalf of all the IMP members, I am very grateful for the decision to make this announcement here at IMP on our 65th anniversary. On August 3, 1961, IMP was born. We are a long-established institution of the Brazilian State, and we are very proud of that. I want to tell President Lula, Vice President Geraldo Alco, our Minister Luciana, and Minister Capobiano, that your presence here today is very, very important . Celebrating our anniversary by showcasing our work in the form of concrete results for Brazilian society is an institutional dream. These numbers are not produced by machines; they are produced by public servants who are completely dedicated to this institution and this country, and passionate about their work. Therefore, the transformation of science and technology into public innovation in the form of unique products that generate deforestation figures, which you are coming to the IMP to announce from our home, is an honor. This is a clear sign of the relevance of this institution's work and a recognition of the work of these employees, technologists, researchers, analysts, technicians, my colleagues, my friends, who have carried out space programs for these 65 years that are state policies with long-term decisions. President Lula has been directly associated with this program since his first terms in office, and has always been so, as is its success, reflected in the numbers we are announcing today. Thanks. We need to move forward, and we will, but today we mainly want to celebrate our workforce, the people, the folks at IMP. Therefore, to conclude, I would like our server, which today completes 50 years at IMP and continues to produce and help us, including in this monitoring system, to receive from your hands the highest honor of this institution that he helped to build. An engineer from Lavras, now the "Athens of Minas Gerais," who arrived at IMP as an intern at the age of 17 . A year later he went to ITA. Sorry. [applause] A graduate of ITA, he chose to return to IMP to be an innovator, an innovative public servant, and to help train at least three generations of engineers and computer scientists. And many scientists too, right? He is responsible for many of the technical innovations that led to the Prodes and DT products, which are responsible for the numbers we are going to announce, and which are now technologically benchmark systems worldwide. I kindly ask, with all due respect to the symbolism of this, that you present the first Dr. Caus title, to the person who has always been a doctor of the IMP, to engineer Ricardo Cartacho, whom all his colleagues [applause] [applause] Cartacho. Mr. President, Mr. President. Mr. President, let's do one more, Ricardo, you're going to receive the title of Doctor twice, huh? [applause] Thank you. The [laughter] has. I'm going to finish. He will give Ricardo the nickname, which all his colleagues, president, and vice-president recognize and affectionately call their guru. I am a civil servant with 41 years at IMP and an engineer from the first generation of engineers that Ricardo took by the hand on his behalf and on behalf of all the civil servants with 10, 15, 30, 25, 35, 40 and 45 years of service who are in this auditorium and are being honored, feel honored on behalf of Cartacho. IMP is, and always has been, above all, the soul of each and every one of us in this room. Live long. [applause] Dr. Cartacho. Well, I can only express my gratitude for the institution's kindness towards someone who truly dedicated so much of their life to this kind of interaction with others. It's amazing that we had that experience together, you know, sharing the dream of developing technology here in Brazil, of innovating, Mendonça's dream of using satellites for Earth observation, you know? I caught him here a while ago , right? He left the IMP's management position exactly on the day I officially joined the IMP , but I was already a scholarship recipient here, I was an intern. And that dream remains to this day, right? We've been creating technology, developing it, reinventing ourselves over time. Since the beginning of the 80s, Brazil has changed a lot, hasn't it? The laws, the political system, and technological innovation, right? That's all we had to keep up with, right? We reinvented ourselves several times, both as a group and as individuals, right? Miguel, who was a space engineer, right? The great one is an expert in bio-socio- bioeconomy, let's say. I think Bel also had a big influence, right? His wife is an environmentalist. But we're still here, dreaming of a new generation now. Minister, I wanted to thank you, I think on behalf of the entire Impiana community, for this competition that was held recently, and for bringing in some fresh blood, and the president is the ultimate representative of all this, right? He's used to it, I think. But it was very important because age will catch up with him, I don't think it will. At 80 years old, with this kind of disposition, I feel a little impaired, let's say. But new blood is very important. Science and technology have to follow a sequence, right? We need new people to provide the necessary information so that we can transmit things. And Brazil needs that, right? I think that one of the drivers of the country's development, one of the drivers, is science and technology, right? So, what I want to do now is really express my gratitude for the opportunity I had to spend time with these people, you know, who make life enjoyable. So, thank you very much to everyone. [applause] Saudade 74. Reaching 80. Now for the presentation on deforestation data, the Secretary of the Ministry of Environment and Climate Change, André Lima, and the coordinator of Biomas BR, Cláudio Almeida, will speak. [applause] Good afternoon to everyone. Good afternoon, Mr. President. Vice-President, Minister Luciana, Minister Campanco, and all our friends are here. Well, as Miguel already mentioned, it's a huge honor to be here presenting the most recent results we have from PRODS, right? We are now integrating our presentation. It's already in, hasn't it? Well, the PRODs data that we were finally able to finalize. So, we are delivering the complete Prods Brasil for all of Brazil and the most recent DT data for the Amazon and Cerrado biomes. You can put it here behind me. Oh, next. I think it's better to answer. Thanks. OK. Okay, let's start with the complete data for Brazil. That is to say, as I said, we had already delivered three biomes, and now we have completed Caatinga, Atlantic Forest, and Pampa. With this, we are delivering a complete, undivided picture of Brazil to the entire country. Very important, Mr. President, we had a 20% drop compared to the previous year, right, when we add up the PR data for all of Brazil. A 20% drop; anything more than that would be the lowest figure recorded in the entire series. Since 2016, when we started doing a complete mapping of all of Brazil, this is the lowest Prodes data in this entire series. You've been there for over 10 years, it's the smallest amount of data accounting, right? I will present each of the biomes individually. In the case of the Pampa biome, we had a 41% reduction compared to the previous year, totaling 305 km² this year. In the case of the Catinga, a reduction of 34%, right, 2200 km², but it shows that there has been a second consecutive decline. We had seen three consecutive increases in the Caatinga region, and now we've had two decreases, showing that this reduction is a steady one. In the case of the Atlantic Forest, we also had a 15% decrease, right? The value for the Atlantic Forest is lower, but that's because it's a biome that has already suffered significant deforestation; 400 km² have been deforested in the Atlantic Forest biome. The data that we had already submitted, regarding the Amazon, we had already submitted it last year, before COP, right? There had already been a reduction of 15, almost 16%, which was more than 5,000 km in the Amazon. The Cerrado, right, a reduction that was already at 11%. It's very important for us to talk about this because the Cerrado region had seen four consecutive increases, Mr. President, right? And then we start to gradually reduce it. This is the second waterfall we've managed to capture within the Cerrado biome. The Pantanal has experienced a sharp decline, hasn't it? 2024 was heavily influenced by those major wildfire events. They experienced a surge in deforestation. We have now seen a 65% reduction in deforestation in the Pantanal biome. Now I will present the most recent data, which is the DT data. Unlike PRODS, which provides the final, official deforestation data, the DETER system is more precise. The DETER system, Mr. President, is designed for rapid monitoring so that enforcement agencies, like my friend Jairmite who's here beside me, can direct field teams to carry out these inspections. And we have this for both major biomes where there is a large expansion of deforestation. Let's start with the data from the Amazon, shall we? The Amazon also has a significant reduction of 36.9%, right? Again, this is the lowest value of the entire series since 2016, right? This was the lowest value measured by DET during this entire period, 2874 km², throughout this year which was from August 2025 to July 2026 in the Amazon. [applause] In the Amazon, most of the deforestation is concentrated within private properties, but there's also 22% in areas that, let me see, I can't see it properly here, 22% are within public forest areas. Thanks, Capobenco, right? and 18% in areas where there is no information about what the training is. The Cerrado region, the data for the Cerrado also shows a decrease, a drop of 7.8% compared to the previous year, totaling 519 km². It's also important to point out that the Cerrado region had been experiencing successive increases, and for the second year in a row within the ET (Expertise and Research) we measured a lower value, a decrease in the deforestation data. In the Cerrado, unlike the Amazon, most of these properties are privately owned, so that area has CGF, right? The area with public forest, for example, is much smaller, right? You have 14% there. These are the facts, Mr. President. It was a great pleasure to present the data, not only for the result itself, but, as Miguel very well put it, for the capacity developed within the institute to generate, to have autonomy, to have technological sovereignty, and to have this data recognized worldwide. Mr. President, thank you very much. [applause] It is also a joy to be here, President Lula, Vice-President Geraldo Alkmin, Minister Luciana, Minister Capobianco, ladies and gentlemen, first ladies and all the impianos here, impianas. It's a joy to be here and be able to share this, because everything that was announced by Cláudio, the famous Cláudio from IMP, right, Minister, is the result of a lot of hard work from many people within the government. The Ministry of the Environment, which oversees the plans for preventing and controlling deforestation, is already in the presentation phase. So I want to present, in a very quick summary, some of the main actions that are leading to this super important result in all Brazilian biomes, right? So we have it here for the first time too, right? We have all the plans, plans for preventing and controlling deforestation in all Brazilian biomes, in the sequence shown here in the presentation, right? From 2023 until now, 2025, right? And we have a project focused on bioeconomy, right? A super important program here, which is the Prospera program, a bioeconomy partner, with millions of reais invested in the bioeconomy. And I'm going to stay more to the side here, otherwise I won't be able to do it. Well, the Restoration Arc project in the Amazon, the resumption of the forest restoration plan in the Amazon, with more than R $50 million in resources from the Amazon Fund. Thanks. Ecoin is a wonderful project, an investment fund that launches calls for proposals every year to raise funds to invest in economic activity that is conditional on zero deforestation and offers economic incentives for sustainability. More than 140 billion invested, of which 41 billion are treasury funds and private investment for activities such as sustainable tourism, infrastructure, forest restoration, and bioeconomy in the Amazon. So, a significant amount of resources, right, for activities that are committed to this goal of reducing deforestation. The Amazon Fund, right, which has significantly increased its investments, in addition to fundraising, has already committed more than R$ 6 billion to investments in sustainable activities and environmental control in the Amazon, right? IBAMA, we are here with the president of IBAMA and we have other people here from IBAMA as well, significantly increasing its environmental control activities, with more than 68,000 inspection actions throughout Brazil, 27,000 infraction notices, and 2.4 billion in assets seized from environmental crimes and infractions. A 41% reduction in deforested area due to illegal mining in Brazil, right? And there's also a significant increase in areas that are embargoed, meaning areas that are removed from illegal use due to IBAMA's activities. We also have a very important project approved by the Amazon Fund, already underway, worth R$ 825 million, 311 new enforcement agents at IBAMA, and an increase of more than 118% in the enforcement budget, right? So this is also an important step forward in the environmental enforcement agenda at IBAMA, but also at ICMB, isn't it? With over 68,000 enforcement actions, 10,000 infraction notices, 4,200 embargoes, and almost half a million hectares embargoed, also in protected areas, adding up the enforcement actions. The Federal Police are also accessing resources from the Amazon Fund. In total, more than R$ 450 million reais were invested in the Federal Police for actions, especially in the Amazon, with the creation of the Amazon International Police Cooperation Center , the CCPI Amazônia, which recently carried out a very important operation in the region together with Colombia and Bolivia. There are also advances in legal actions, with the Attorney General's Office significantly filing lawsuits demanding reparations for environmental damages, including in the Amazon, right? Ah, the expansion of Bolsa Verde, which is a resource that reaches families living in protected areas, right? As a form of compensation, a reward for also acting as guardians and environmentalists, with nearly 87,000 families, 305,000 sq km of protected areas, benefiting 139 municipalities, 498 conservation units, and more than 370 million reais invested in this program. The change also increases transparency regarding deforestation, because some of this deforestation is authorized, some is illegal; we have to combat the illegal and act with economic incentives in the case of legal deforestation. So the changes to the regulations that we made are very important, for example, this resolution from the National Environment Council , because from it we can segregate and separate what constitutes illegal deforestation from what constitutes legal vegetation suppression. Several resolutions regarding the implementation of the entire integrated fire management policy in Brazil. You're seeing how, unfortunately, climate change and global warming have increased the risk of fires in Brazil, and we've been preparing for two years now with the approval of the National Integrated Fire Management Policy Law and the implementation of a set of resolutions, and the SIMA, which organizes the entire federal government for its actions and operations for fire prevention and control. More than 20 institutions organize themselves and meet weekly, two or three times a week, during the fire season to carry out a coordinated effort with the federal government, in addition to the situation room coordinated by the Civil House, right? So that's it, there are many actions that are leading us to truly deliver a Brazil that is increasingly free of deforestation, moving towards zero deforestation, Mr. President, which is the goal you set for us by 2030. [applause] At this moment, the Minister of the Environment and Climate Change, João Paulo Capobianco, takes the floor. Mr. President, our Vice-President, Minister Luciana, our First Lady, Jana da Silva and Lualkm, all present here, our Mayor Jair Smith, representative of Ibama, Mauro Pires, president of CBI, André Lima, Cláudio, all present here, and I greet you all on behalf of our Ricardo Galvão, a great and very important figure. Today our federal representative is defending this entire agenda in the National Congress. Congratulations, Ricardo. Thank you very much for your work. Mr. President, I'm not a piano player, but I feel like I'm playing the piano because I've been frequenting this place since the late 1980s. And I used to frequent this place as a member of civil society to learn about the deforestation data in the Amazon. They used to be made here, always here. The minister would come here and roll the dice. And one point I wanted to emphasize to everyone here is that I have never felt any embarrassment for being here, even when I came as a member of civil society to openly criticize the increase in deforestation in Brazil. I was always welcomed by the technical team, and I always had access to all the data. Therefore, this is an institution that honors our country through its dedication, seriousness, quality, and international and national recognition, even though it doesn't always show positive results. This institution, Mr. President, when the numbers aren't good, it shows that the numbers aren't good. This institution shows us where we are going wrong, where we are going right, and allows us to analyze the specific areas where we are managing to reverse deforestation. André Lima did n't speak here just now, but at your suggestion , I remember right at the beginning of the government, along with Minister Mariana Silva, you asked us to have an action plan with the mayors, and we then identified the municipalities with the highest deforestation rates, which together accounted for more than 50% of deforestation. There are 70 municipalities, and so we created the " Union with Municipalities" program to work with the mayors, providing technical assistance, supporting the capacity building of the municipalities, and the result we are now seeing is that deforestation rates in the municipalities participating in the "Union with Municipalities" program are falling much more rapidly than in the Amazon as a whole. Therefore, this is a very important action that is only possible because we have data here produced with reliability, with technical rigor, and as I always say, truthful, no matter who it hurts. Some people did n't accept this data. Some people said that the data was false and fabricated. This cost our dear Ricardo Galvão his job at IMP. but without ever failing to disclose the correct information. This was crucial in allowing us to recover this work. We also have here, Mr. President, an icon of this team, Carlos Nobre, who is a spectacular person, who leads us in the work of analyzing data that goes beyond deforestation, analyzing data in relation to changes, to climate change, and who has been a public servant dedicated to public service, defending what is in the interest of society. So that's it, Mr. President. We are showing you, sir, and everyone present here, our vice-president, that Brazil has achieved a fantastic result: the lowest rate of deforestation in the entire country in 10 years, across all biomes. It's not that we don't seduce in the Amazon, but we lose control in the Pampa or the Caatinga. You yourself asked me several times, where's Catinga's number? You were asking me that. There's more than a 33% reduction in deforestation in the Caatinga biome, proven by PROTS. And more than that, the trend of continued reduction, now with the DT data in the Amazon and Cerrado, shows that our new 2026 figure, when we complete the more detailed analyses that IMP does through PRODs, will allow us to show concrete results with the reduction of emissions, reduction of the impact on biodiversity, reduction of the impact on Brazilian society, and we can be proud that we are doing a correct and fair job, and that Brazil is seriously addressing one of its biggest problems, which is deforestation. Towards zero deforestation, as you defined it, Mr. President, as you challenged us. And I am truly honored, Mr. President, to be with you and your entire team working to deliver to the world, not just Brazil, a country free from deforestation and that can benefit from its enormous biodiversity and its immense natural heritage. Thank you all very much, and thank you to the president for allowing us to be here. We are hearing from the Minister of Science, Technology and Innovation, Luciana Santos. [applause] Folks, good afternoon. Good afternoon. As Capô said, he says he already feels like he's playing the piano. I 'm not a piano player yet, but who knows, right? Well, Mr. President Lula, I've been here a few times, and I've been able to appreciate and admire the work of this long-established institution, which is increasingly asserting itself in the international community, and, as others have said here, through its soul, dedication, competence combined with passion, Mr. President. That's what we see, these extraordinary results. It is Brazilian intelligence, capable of operating in such a strategic area as caring for Brazilian biomes. So, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, thank you for your presence. This isn't the first time you've visited that house, that satellite laboratory; there are several photos of you there. And I would also like to thank Mrs. Jângel Lula da Silva for being here with us on the 65th anniversary of this institution. My thanks also to our dear Vice President Geraldo Alckmin and Mrs. Luquem, to Minister João Paulo Capobianco, our ally in this fight, who is the Minister of the Environment and Climate Change, and to Anderson Farias, Mayor of São José dos Campos. Thank you also for your kind words and for being here. And I want to, on behalf of Antônio Miguel Vieira, the director of IMP, greet the rest of the honor guard, all the researchers, workers, and highlight the presence of our dear Ricardo Galvão, who is a symbol of resistance against denialism in the country. That's why I went to rescue him. That's why, right at the beginning of our administration, I went to rescue him from this saga, you know, which he represented and led until recently at CNPq. Thank you, Professor Ricardo Galvão. So, folks, it's a pleasure to be here gathering the DET data from July 2026, reaffirming President Lula's government's commitment to transparency and science-based public policies. It seems obvious to say this, but in times of denialism and obscurantism, we need to state the obvious: the necessary scientific evidence as a basis for decision-making. And transparency, as Capô rightly said here . In the interview we did recently, I said that. Here we don't hide numbers, whether for good or bad, we're here to face the situation as it is, and that's the determination, the conviction that drives our president Lula. The numbers we released today confirm the consistent trend of reduced deforestation. It is an accumulated total for the period from the 25th to July. I won't repeat this information to keep it brief. These impressive numbers demonstrate that it is possible to protect our biomes through coordinated state action. It's a convergent approach, right, where we provide real-time data through a model developed by the expertise and intelligence of this institution, of the people who make up the institution, and at the same time deliver it to IBAMA so that they can take action and control measures, right? And it is this federal pact that Lula always demands from us as well. Without the mayors, without the states, you know, mobilized, it wouldn't have been possible to guarantee that either. So, with this reduction, we highlight Brazil's competence in producing knowledge, in exercising sovereignty, Mr. President, because these are Brazilian data and technologies, as you recently heard. The processing of the announced data is being carried out today at the IMP Amazônia in Belém by the local team of the Bioma BR program, which Cláudio has, and you see, Mr. President? They might say something like: "Not at this time , Mr. President. We announce it every month . It's not just during this period, it's every month." That's why Cláudio is known as Cláudio from IMP in the interviews he always gives to the media, right? This is then done in coordination with the team in São José dos Campos, where the results are consolidated. This integration strengthens our operational capacity and brings scientific production closer to the reality of the Amazon. And it is very symbolic that this announcement is happening as we celebrate the 65th anniversary of IMP, a state institution that produces knowledge, develops strategic technologies, and strengthens national sovereignty. The results presented today are also a product of this journey. The IMP is proof of how national technological capacity allows Brazil, through our technological sovereignty, to exercise its territorial sovereignty in caring for the environment. Here, the president was telling him on the plane, it's a flotilla of satellites. I also prefer the name "satellite constellation," which I find more beautiful, and it consists of Amazônia 1, entirely Brazilian, and CBRAS 4 and CBRAS 4A, developed in partnership with China. This is a long-standing partnership, almost 38 years, providing the images that support this monitoring system, which is a world reference. This information is processed and distributed by Brazil Data Cube. Is that the correct pronunciation? It's true? A computing infrastructure developed by IMP itself. That's also what I want to draw attention to, Mr. President. It's our cloud, a sovereign cloud developed here by Brazilian ingenuity, based on open and national technologies, guaranteeing transparency and autonomy. Investing in science strengthens environmental policies, expands our ability to protect our territory, and helps us combat scientific denialism. Especially since Jan was already reminding me of this this week, through voices, you know, still bringing up the vaccine issue, right? So, we have to combat denialism, precision monitoring, the precision monitoring that we promote is the basis that allows us to see reality and from there provide subsidies for action in the environmental sector, as I have already said here, of the ministry. And the numbers are there, contradicting the arguments the United States uses to impose the tariff on us . I also think there's symbolism in that. I want to state here our ministry's commitment to strengthening the IMP. In recent years, several million from the FNDCT have been mobilized through FINEP to strengthen structuring programs, modernize laboratories, expand satellite engineering, and consolidate a new supercomputing infrastructure. Here is Tupan, the president. Now Jaci or Ajaci has arrived. Ajaci, who had a Tupã. Then we got Jaci to keep Tupã company, and better yet, she's more powerful, she's a high- performance supercomputer that surpasses Tupã, that woman came to surpass him, she retired Tupã, right, Miguel is saying here. and the prospect of new investments being signaled to strengthen the BR biome to promote research in the Amazon, intensifying the use of artificial intelligence in monitoring products. Here, the algorithms and the intelligence are also Brazilian. And above all, today I want to honor the people who, over the course of 65 years, have built this institution into a scientific and technological heritage that makes Brazil proud. After 12 years, Mr. President, without replenishing your staff, by your decision, several public competitions were held nationwide, and here we received 150 new employees. This renews talent, as our honoree today, Cartacho, said, strengthening the team and ensuring that this history of excellence continues to be written for decades to come. And congratulations to all the IMP staff who carry out the daily mission of producing knowledge and technology in service of society. They are the ones who take care of the various research areas at IMP. It is you all who are focused on moving from data and information to generating unique and innovative products for Brazilian society, such as Produs and Deté. Long live IMP! We will continue investing in science, technology, and innovation as pillars of a development project that protects our biomes, I repeat, strengthens national sovereignty, and builds a more sustainable future. It's science and the environment working hand in hand. Steadfast in the fight. Thank you very much. [applause] [laughter] The floor is now open to the Vice President of the Republic, Geraldo Alckmin. [applause] [applause] Good afternoon everyone. Greetings to President Lula and Janja. Joy comes with the best part of the family, which is Lu. Our ministers, Luciana Santos and João Paulo Capobianco. Our mayor, Anderson Faria, from São José dos Campos. The president and director of IMP, Antônio Miguel Vieira e Monteiro, the federal deputy and former president of that institution, professor and scientist Ricardo eh Galvão, Ricardo Cartacho, researcher at IMP, honored guest, our ever-present mayor Carlinhos Almeida, Amélia, friends, it's a joy for the president and Anderson to return to São José dos Campos. This is a city of excellent institutions. IMP, Ita, CTA, Embraer, Technology Park. It is the second best city in the state of São Paulo. The first one, my modesty prevents me from explaining it. And Mr. President, to say that you are a friend of the Paraíba Valley, and that in 60 days President Lula is coming here for the third time. You were here in São José 40 days ago at DCTA for the first ethanol-powered electricity generating turbine. Here in São José, the DCCTA. Later, we were together between São José dos Campos and Jacareí here at Toios, when AV BRAS reopened after being closed for 5 years. It has already reopened with 480 employees, and this is just the beginning; Vibraz in Lorena will also end up reopening soon. This is where the fuel for the missiles is produced, and now it's IMP's anniversary and the announcement of new figures regarding deforestation. Well, and I wanted to point out, Mr. President, that you are proving that it is possible to unite things. Sometimes we hear that protecting the environment hinders production. Prioritizing the domestic market makes exporting more difficult. President Lula is showing that it is possible to achieve social, economic, and sustainable development. We have the lowest deforestation rate in a decade and the highest food production in the country. It's possible to produce more without needing to deforest. Without needing to deforest. And we broke an export record. Yesterday, another record for exports was announced for the month of July, Mr. President. Last year we exported $349 billion, a record, and by lifting 30 million people out of hunger here in Brazil, these things are not incompatible. And to highlight, Mr. President, through your leadership, Brazil's commitment to the issue of climate change. We are hosting COP 30 here, the TFF, not only for zero deforestation, but also for restoring forests with this very important investment fund and bioeconomy, which will open up a whole avenue for job and income generation. Congratulations, IMP. Long life. [Applause] Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is now yours, President of the Republic, Luís Inácio Lula da Silva. Look, no, don't worry, I'm not going to read a speech. I just wanted to start by greeting the colleagues who are at this table. Some of them are like piano movers, and if things don't work out, we get nervous and yell, but when things do work out, we also have to give a positive assessment of what was done. I also want to thank the country for having an institute like this one; it's proven that every time Brazil invests in the right things and calls on the right people to participate, Brazil takes a leap in quality. IMP is an enviable institution and it is second to none among those serving the same purpose for which it was created. So today I came here, I took a space trip between the satellite laboratory and from there we descended into the Brazilian biomes. [snoring] Things that seemed impossible for us to solve. And we feel more at ease when we have the correct information to solve the problem. It's very difficult to work based on "I think," " I [clearing throat] believe," "I think," "I heard." To work correctly, we need to have the correct information to pursue. Capô Bianco said something about Marina Silva here. The first meeting I had with Marina, I said: "Marina, we have to take care of this deforestation issue. No, from Brasília we can't take care of the high forest in the state of Pará. We can't. We can't just be shouting and cursing at someone in charge. No, what we need is to make the mayor of that city our ally in fulfilling what we understand to be right. He's close to the city, he knows the property, the owner of the farms that are on fire, he knows the area that 's being deforested much faster than we do. And if, instead of making him an adversary, we transform him into a friend, that is, things become much easier for us to win. And we reap the success in the first year, when we decide to contribute financially to the mayors who dedicate themselves to fulfilling the public policies that we determine in Brasília. If it's not like that, nothing works in the country. The Bolsa Família program wouldn't work if it were controlled only from Brasília, if everything were determined in Brasília." If you don't involve the mayors, it doesn't work, Carlinho. You, who were a mayor and were on the ground, either we transform the mayors into our allies, or our policies will never be satisfactory. That's why Mrs. Rute Cardoso has a very famous phrase she said: "The way public policy is done in Brazil, it's better to throw the money from a helicopter, so it falls into the hands of some who need public policies." And it's a concrete fact, because in this country there's no communication between the federated entities. The mayors don't talk not because they do n't want to talk, but because many times the higher powers don't want to talk. And when we establish a form of communication, things happen. I remember that in my first term I created a mayors' room on the third floor of the Presidency of the Republic. I remember that I created an office in each superintendency of Caixa Econômica in Brazil to serve mayors, because mayors don't know how to do projects in a very small town. They spend a week wandering around Brasília, meeting with Congressman A, Congressman B, Congressman C. B, and he ca n't even put together a project. I created a room at Caixa Econômica so they could guide the mayors to arrive in Brasília with everything ready. And on this issue of deforestation, we made a commitment that nobody asked us to make. It was an audacious commitment from us that it's possible for us to reach zero deforestation by 2030. The numbers, the numbers are indicating that if we continue at the pace we're going, with the seriousness we're taking, and allocating the necessary resources, we can achieve it, because it's also not possible to implement certain public policies if you don't have money. If you don't have money to buy the equipment. This week I participated in a meeting where those who were there saw my comparison. I think that no country in the world, no country in the world, prepared itself, Silvia, to face Elninho. How did we prepare ourselves? Whether we'll achieve 100% success will also depend on a bit of luck, on the size of Elninho, because 24 ministers always meet, they built the biggest money proposal. To buy the necessary cars, the necessary trucks, hire the necessary firefighters, hire everything that is necessary, including us making a food reserve to meet the needs if something more serious happens. A reserve of rice, a reserve of beans, a reserve of corn, that is, so that we are prepared to face the event with medical care, that is, nothing will be lacking, because I told Capubia that it is important for you to distribute this material that you prepared, not only for the specialists to know, but for the world to know that in this country we take the climate issue very seriously, because we are not deniers. We are seeing things happen. Well, [applause] and when I found out that the IMP was going to be 65 years old. And then I wanted to talk to my dear Professor Cartacho, who just received a Dr. Aurores Calv title from the IMP. You're only 74 years old, man. I [clearing throat] am 80 and I say I'm 30. Because you know what happens? Although you are a specialist And you know we can't stop the Earth's rotation. The years go by, there's no way to stop it. I turned 80 last October, look, I'm almost 81. This year I can't stop. What can I stop watching this? And what makes us get old? The lack of a purpose, the lack of motivation. If you have it, if you have it, and based on what you said, you have a lot to produce for this country still, man. So you take your retirement and wait and go back to work, because we can only stop a person who has the intellectual capacity, the amount of capacity to produce innovation that you have, you can't hide that from the future of this country. We have to use the past to work in the present and to guarantee a better future. And you can do that. Don't call yourself old, because I would give everything I have to go back to being 74 years old and be young like you. I confess that if we want to, Vení doesn't catch people. Carlos Nobre can tell you. If you have a "Look, get up every morning wanting to do things. Don't stay sitting in a chair, don't let that back pain hurt, it only hurts because you've been sitting or lying down for too long. Get up and get that body moving, damn it. Move that body, doing whatever you want, but move your body. Don't let age get you down. That's why I say I'm going to live to be 120. I want to live. I want to live. I talk to God. Look, take someone else. I don't want to go. Whoever wants to cut in front of me, I 'm letting them go, okay? I'm not going to call anyone a line-cutter, I'm not going to fight with anyone. You can go ahead. I want to stay here suffering with you until I'm dead and dating my Jandinha whenever possible. Well, but why did I come here? Why did I come here to take a picture with you? Then I need to put up those graphs you put up, because I want to take a picture to send to Trump. [applause] No, because I'm going to..." I'm going to tell you a story . Trump and I have had a few meetings. He has always treated me with great respect. I treat him with great respect. When I met Trump in Malaysia, I said to Trump: "Look, Trump, we are two 80-year-old men. I [snoring] have already turned 80, he turned 80 on July 14th. So I'm a little older than you. And we have to convey to the world the responsibility of the two largest democracies in the world, which have had a diplomatic relationship since 2011, and we have to project a certain harmony to the world. The world needs this. We can't keep trying to pass off things that aren't true. And the meeting was good, it was good. Then I went to meet with Trump in the Oval Office. You think it's easy in the oval salon. I went to the Oval Office, I took my finance minister, I took my justice minister, I took my industry and commerce minister, Márcio, who took Alkim's place, and I took the foreign minister, and I went to discuss our problems with President Alkim, with President Trump, and I brought everything I wanted to discuss in writing, because normally people who are very important pretend to be deaf when they talk to people who are not so important. So, since I'm not that important, I take my documents—I just said that—I hand them over so people know, it's been said and written down, there's no way they can forget and say I didn't say anything. And we started by discussing the deal; there was disagreement about the percentage to be charged. I said, " Trump, let's do this, look, because the truth is, I have more experience than him, I've been president longer than him, you know?" So, I am the longest-serving president of this country. I'm second only to Getúlio Vargas, who went 15 years without elections. Not me, every year is an election, it's a terrible fight. Then I told him, look, I think we're seeing that there are discrepancies in the business world. Let's do this: let's give your businessman 30 days, and my minister will find a solution. If you all agree on everything after this meeting , I'll change my position. If you are wrong, you change your position, because it is not possible to work based on misinformation. We agree with that. I gave Trump some material on the issue of combating organized crime and drug trafficking. We have a federal policy in place. We have already approved several legal instruments to combat this. We passed the anti-gang law. We are now fighting organized crime very strongly. We created a highly specialized federal police force in the city of Manaus to oversee our borders in partnership with police forces across South America. Today, the Secretary General of Interpol is a Brazilian from the Federal Police. So we are prepared to debate and arrest white-collar criminals anywhere in the world. We are ready. I handed it to her. I handed him the matter of written materials, minerals, rare tertiary minerals, and critical minerals. I used to think, I thought rare earth elements were half-hearted, because they're produced in such low quantities. I said, "Land that yields nothing is rare soil." No, but I realized that rare earth is a fancier term. I've been told that when we talk about rare earth elements, we need to know that they contain 17 chemical components. Go out there. So, I'm preparing for the debate. But I handed it to him saying that Brazil does not have a veto against the United States. Brazil has no preference for China. Brazil has no preference for France. Brazil wants to work with everyone on equal terms. Anyone who wants to invest in Brazil, build factories in Brazil, explore, transform, and bring technology, Alcaremos and I will be at the airport to welcome them with open arms. What we don't want is for Brazil to become a mere exporter of wealth that doesn't belong to us, it belongs to the people. So we have to take advantage of this wealth to create a fund to leave for the people. Taking care of the poor people who don't even know what that is, but they have a right to it because it's theirs. So we want to do that. I told Trump, anyone who wants to be invited is welcome. I handed in all the documents and waited for a response. And we call each other every week to schedule a meeting. Maros met with the U.S. Secretary of Commerce about four or five times . Ah, but he has a citizen who doesn't like Brazil, who doesn't like Latin America, and who is a Bolsonaro supporter, who is the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. He doesn't like it, I told Trump, this guy doesn't like Brazil, he doesn't . He is an anti-Latin American or a frustrated Latin American because he left Cuba, his grandfather, his great-grandfather Cedelar, he never lived in Cuba, but he left. He is a Cuban descendant from Miami. So he hates, he hates Cuba, he hates Colombia, he hates Brazil. Yeah, and he does things differently from what we discuss with Trump. And then last week I was relaxed and I saw in the newspapers that the United States was going to impose a new tariff against Brazil. And then I was just waiting, you know? There was no phone call, but it came through the press as always, a huge tariff increase, raising the tariff by another 2.5% against us. This gives us a deficit of 7.4 billion. The amount isn't that high, because the economic relationship, you know, between Brazil and the United States in trade isn't that great; it used to be 22%, now it's only 9.4%. And in the conversation I told Trump: "Look, Mr. President, we don't have preferences for who we sell to. We only want to sell to whoever wants to buy. And for every item you don't buy from me, I'll sell to someone else. I'm not going to complain. Look, I've sold tapioca, peanuts, corn cakes, oranges, sardines. Look, when I arrived at a house and the woman didn't want to buy my product, I went to another. If she didn't want it, I went to another. That's how I do it. That's why we've already opened 663 new markets for Brazilian products since I became president. Well, what shocked me is that the argument about our tariffs isn't true. Again, he said he's imposing tariffs on Brazil because Brazil doesn't take care of deforestation. That's what there is, a lot of deforestation in Brazil. And another thing, he wouldn't easily impose tariffs on Brazil because Brazil buys products made with slave labor from other countries." Countries. He was certainly referring to China because we buy products from China. It's absurd. First, because I don't have the capacity to interfere in another country. I'm not the Minister of Labor of another country. I'm not a political delegate of another country. I'm not a labor inspector, you know . I buy the products they want to sell according to Brazil's needs and quality. So I found it strange. I found it strange. We tried to talk to them, we already issued a statement, I already wrote another article that was published on the website [posting to show], you know, with lies nobody will beat Brazil, nobody. Because I doubt, [snoring] I'm saying this looking you in the face, I doubt that in this country there is anyone, in this world, there is anyone who takes the climate issue more seriously at this historical moment of humanity as we do here in Brazil. I doubt it, and I doubt that there is anyone who takes child labor, the labor of minors, as seriously as Brazil does. I doubt it. The ILO, which is the International Labour Organization, is always praising Brazil. So they tell a lie trying to create a negative image. From Brazil. I cannot accept that, having escaped hunger in the city where I was born, surviving and reaching 80 years of age, I allow someone to lie about my country and about what I do. That's why I came here. I came here to show that nobody, not even the United States, takes the climate issue as seriously as Brazil does. Nobody. [applause] [applause] And I've already seen him testify at the UN saying that he doesn't believe in this climate issue, that he doesn't believe in this business, that it's all a lie. I've seen him speak, it's not that I heard it, someone told me, I heard it while I was sitting at the UN listening to him speak, so I said: "No, I'm going to go to the IMP, I'm going to go there and look at the numbers." You can keep passing others along. You can go ahead and move on. This will record, and I 'll send everything like this. Go ahead, little one. Pass the others over. Whoever has the power to change things will go ahead and add more stuff here, you know? Mota those graphs, the ones where we are this small and the others are this huge. Because I told Luciana, are you going there to make comparisons? I said, "No, Mr. President, you can't make comparisons." I don't know who said you can't make comparisons, that it 's forbidden because it's election time. Hey, I gotta tell you guys something. What a beautiful number, my God. Oh, my dear little squid. Here it is. Then they said we can't make comparisons. Hey folks, if those in government don't show what they've done, why will their opponents? No. Do you think any opponent, even if they 're not a candidate, a journalist, or someone who dislikes me, will speak well of me? Wow, this Lulho and this alcohol are so good, two of them is even better. This combination, this combination, this dish of chayote with squid is a lot of work. So that's why I came here. I came here to congratulate IMP, to tell you how proud I am to see a Brazilian rocket right now, near a rocket that's being assembled. I met a guy with such a beautiful smile thanking me. Lula, I graduated from the program and I'm working here. That's all I ever wanted in life, for the poor to become doctors. That's all I want in life. Our president saw his face. What joy! So, did you know that Brazil has the capability to produce a satellite like that ? It's a wonderful thing, folks. And that's what we need to get into our heads. We are not inferior to anyone. We are not inferior. We may not have reached the level they did. Because in this country too, when we talk about innovation, if the government doesn't invest, many private companies don't invest in innovation. That's the truth. Talk goes on and on. But when you look into it, you'll see that it's the government that invests and Petrobras that invests. That's what we mean. So we need to convince the deniers that investing in research is not a waste of money. Investing in research is betting on our ability to create newer and higher-quality things. And we'll only be able to do it if we research what they did, what the great managers who came after us did. My dear Carlos Nobre. Ah, let's sell Petrobras. Petrobras is operating at a loss. Since we can't sell Petrobras, we're going to sell off parts of Petrobras and start selling off refineries. If it were up to me, I would buy back the refinery that they privatized. [applause] There we go, we're going to privatize, we're going to privatize our gas. We're not going to do it. Guys, I left behind a urea refinery in Três Lagoas, Mato Grosso do Sul . There was 15% left to go. 15%. Do you know when it will be made? Now, because I went there to resume [the project] and we are going to rebuild because it was stopped for a year and Brazil was importing fertilizer, and we imported almost 90%. Now, Carl, we're going to produce 36% here in Brazil through our Petrobras, because here's the thing: Petrobras is going to have more profit this year. Pay attention, Dr. Aler, my colleagues, pay attention. This year Petrobras will have more profit than in the year they reported profits from selling Petrobras' assets. I wonder what Brazil gained when those people sold the BR highway? What? Someone please tell me, for God's sake , what did this country gain when they sold the BR highway? What did Brazil gain when they sold some refineries? What did Brazil gain when they sold Eletropaulo? It's not Eletropaulo, no, it's Eletrobrá. What did Brazil gain? What has improved? So here's the thing, we have institutions like IMP, we have people in job training to say that these people here, that Ibama is against deforestation, I immediately took the gift from Ibama, which is a bit of a mess. Oh, what a killer, what a killer he has here. Every time he tries, every time the deforestation numbers come out , don't grab a hair from him to show it here. It's preserved because we have to make our work a source of pride. It's not just pride for us, it's pride for this country. When I see Carlos Nobre, I speak of you with great pride, because I received a German minister who came to speak to me about COP30 and said: "Mr. President, for God's sake, you have to bring Carlos Nobre, he has to speak, Mr. President, he has to speak, okay?" So I'm proud of the Brazilians who succeed in life, and I want us to showcase them. I just went to Hannover, to the world's largest industrial fair, and I decided to issue a challenge to Mercedes-Benz and I decided to issue a challenge to the Prime Minister of Germany. We don't need the technological mix of trucks that you make, which involve putting a little something in the engine to emit less greenhouse gas. I said, "Our fuel is better than yours." And we went there, Carlos, with our Bildízio. Let's go to Germany, Renove, in the heart of Germany's industrial world, and drive 100 km using their fuel, with us in one of their trucks, with their technicians. In conclusion, we returned the 7-1 defeat he owes us in the 2014 World Cup. [applause] Okay? Our fuel emits 67% fewer greenhouse gases than theirs. And why am I against buying euros at 5, 6, or 7 euros? Because every time they create this thing called 1 euro, this thing called micro-technology, the price of trucks here in Brazil increases by 15%. So here's the thing: Brazil is big, we have potential, we have an intellectual base, we have a scientific base; what we need is to put ourselves out there. To state it, I exist, I like myself. I remember one time Maria da Conceição Tavares, I'm going to swear here, she was arguing with the guy, I saw the guy arguing and the guy said a lot of crap, the guy spoke very badly about the PT and something. She said: "The PT, the PT is bad, the PT is crap." Yeah, but it's my stuff, not yours. So only I can speak about her. So, Brazil, we have to be proud of Brazil, folks. We are not inferior. When I brought this young man here to be vice-president, he was governor of São Paulo for 16 years and he didn't win against the right wing. It's just like me, damn it. From the PT. Therefore, it must have value, because if the PT (Workers' Party) thinks it's the best and it beat us, it's because it has value. Then when I called him to work with me as a young man, I said: "I have to give Al work because with his experience in this area, the guy is going to plot against Lulinha." So, I was left searching for a genius to be Minister of Industry and Commerce. I wanted someone who was good, who thought a lot about innovation, who talked about new technologies, fine chemicals, and things like that, because every now and then new things are invented that I talk about without knowing what they are, but I talk about them well. Then I called several citizens to choose a minister, and I spoke with everyone, and when I was speaking, the last citizen was introduced to me. He knows the person, Aluí Mercadante knows them, I don't know who knows them. The conversation with so-and-so, that so-and-so is good. I took the staff to the hotel; I was at the hotel renovating the palace that Bolsonaro left dirty. I was renovating the hotel, and we stayed there. I called the guy over to talk. Then, after an hour of conversation, an hour, I said: "My friend, tell me something, everything you've told me, have you put any of your theories into practice?" No. I said, I'm going to call the glasses to be Minister of Commerce, because they are the very embodiment of practice. He's the guy who has experience governing the most important state in the federation, and therefore he'll know how to run things. I can say this now in front of you all: Brazil has had many businessmen in the Ministry of Industry and Commerce, but I'll tell you, none have ever come close to the political skill that Alm has for negotiating and talking to workers. [applause] That's why I came here to make the 65th anniversary of IP my banner of defense against the states of the United States, against Brazil, okay? So now pay attention to what's going to happen next. Every time we send mail to the United States, we include the IMP information, okay? It doesn't walk. If you want to make an investment, it 's accepted, if you want to. But that's it, that's why I'm here. First, because of the pride you represent. Secondly, based on the data you captured using new technologies. Third, because it is our commitment to achieve zero deforestation. Whether we'll succeed, I don't know. I don't know. But the truth is, if it depends on me, on my will, on my government, we will get there . So, congratulations, happy birthday. Professor, for God's sake, never give up. Never give up. Your motto, your motto should be like this. It took you 9 months to be born. Don't make a decision in 9 days, my son. Here's what you have to say, your motto is this: always keep going, never stop. That's their motto. Brazil needs you, and it really needs you, okay? Hugs, everyone. May God bless you. At this moment, Professor Cartaço is delivering the model of the Amazon satellite. This announcement is now closed. Everyone is asked to remain in their seats until the President of the Republic leaves.