more to come. With that, I would really like to welcome Minister Gregor Robertson, our Minister of Housing and Infrastructure to tell us more for today's announcement. Thank you. >> Thank you, Selma. Hi, everyone. Bonjourus. Thank you to Selma for getting us started here on your home turf. Uh great to be here today in the sunshine of Toronto with Prime Minister, Mayor Chow, uh all of our colleagues here from uh Toronto Caucus and uh council. Thank you for joining us. Special thanks to our parliamentary secretary for housing, infrastructure, and communities. Jen McKelie, former deputy mayor. We've got a few of our ex mayor and deputy mayors uh stepping up into this important time for us. Since becoming ministry, minister, I've spent a lot of time on the road meeting with mayors, with premers, indigenous leaders, community housing providers, builders, and workers like many of you here all across Canada. Whether it was on construction sites in BC or it was in uh at the council tables in the Maritimes or here on affordable housing projects in Toronto, there's one thing I hear consistently. Canadians are ready to build. Cities have projects. Our community builders, nonprofits have plans. Our builders are prepared to get shovels in the ground. They're asking us to work together to move faster and to help them get those homes built. And those those conversations have certainly reinforced something that I learned uh for a decade in my time as mayor of Vancouver. We make real progress on housing when every order of government pulls in the same direction. And that's exactly what we're doing now to tackle the housing crisis across Canada. Build Canada Homes is bringing partners together, unlocking projects, helping communities turn plans into homes. And I also understand the pressure that cities are under. cities like Toronto and across Ontario in particular. I've sat in the council meetings where where we knew every project mattered because it meant many more people could finally find a place that they could afford. activity where the need is greatest and Toronto we're seeing that partnership in action today. This is amazing news and it's building off of a lot of successful work to date. We've invested in indigenous housing on Merin Road, affordable homes in Regent Park, co-op housing in Dunelm, and helped support very significant rental housing projects across the city. Uh thanks to Colleen and the CMHC team on rental. Today's announcement is a reflection of the kind of country that we are building and that's one that invests in affordable housing alongside the new rental supply. It's one that embraces sustainability and climate resilience, modern methods of construction, and Canadian innovation and materials. And our Canadians expect our governments to work together to solve these big challenges. To tell us more detail about this important work, it's my honor to welcome our prime minister, Mark Connie. You'll see >> [applause] >> Thank you. Thank you. Uh thank you very much uh Gregor. Thank you uh Selma for welcoming us here. Thanks to my parliamentary colleagues. Uh thanks to members of city council, all of you. And I I'll just say one thing at the start. You're going to hear a lot about different levels of government working together. And one of the blessings I have uh as um uh in this role is that I have colleagues who've worked at the I'm looking for Dolly. Um there you are. Yes. Uh who worked at the provincial level in the city uh uh at the city level here in Toronto, city level in Vancouver, city level across. And that uh helps bring energy insight and a sense of purpose uh to what we're doing. I want to thank u Mayor Chow uh for being here uh today alongside Anna Balao our CEO of Build Canada Homes, Colleen Vul from CHC uh and our my colleagues, but the mayor is here and right from the beginning, right from the start when I uh got in this role um and I knew the mayor a bit from uh before, but right from the beginning we agreed that Toronto grows stronger, Canada grows stronger when we work together, when our governments work together and particular partularly when we build together. And I know the mayor would also agree that Toronto is one of the world's greatest cities. I think she dropped the qualifier, greatest city. Uh fair enough. Yeah, >> I've got to prime minister of Canada. I've got to be more uh equal. But uh but greatness, greatness is earned, but greatness is also a magnet. And for generations, people have come from every single corner of the earth to build a new life here in Toronto. And as a consequence, Toronto is one of the fastest growing cities in North America. And that growth comes with, of course, greater demand for social services and greater demand for housing. And for decades, the simple fact is Toronto didn't build enough housing. And too much of what was built was unaffordable for most Torononians. Prices driven up by development charges, by taxes, by rising construction costs, and a lack of availability of land. And the best way to meet the challenge that that has created is to build more supply and to build it faster, to build better with new methods and modern materials. And above all, building in partnership. Building yes, with the private sector, but also with nonprofits and across every order of government. [applause] And crucial to this is to build a healthy rental market for every kind of renter. And that means yeah, that means from the federal perspective, it means pulling every le lever that we have and using every tool at our disposal. So before I go into more detail in today's announcement, let me just say a few words about what we've been doing to build momentum in affordable housing over the last 17 months. Just last September, less than a year ago, we started and launched Build Canada Homes, a new federal entity charged with supercharging housing construction across Canada. I would like to inform you that the teleprompter has ceased to function. >> [laughter] >> Unlike a certain world leader, I do not view this as a conspiracy. [laughter] Wheat vent sank mill. So there's big progress now being made directionally on affordability. We need to do much more to get things where they need to be. That brings us right here. What was a parking lot 2444 Egllington is now, as you see, a construction site for Kennedy Green, the largest affordable housing development in this province in more than a quarter century. >> And Kennedy Green's backed by $289 million in financing from the Canadian government. But it's happening not just because of the money, but because we're building together. And that's what partnerships can do. Just four months ago, Mayor Chow and I stood with Premier Ford to announce a new partnership between the federal government and the government of Ontario. One that's cutting taxes and fees on new homes in this province that can mean up to a reduction of $200,000. In June, through that partnership, the city of Toronto secured one half billion dollars to cut residential development charges by 40 to 60%. And that partnership is also building the transit that neighborhoods need to cut commute times to connect people to their jobs, their schools, and their homes. New transit that includes the new waterfront east line that will serve more than 150,000 people. and in and of itself enable 75,000 new homes. That includes expanded all day go service across Greater Golden Horseshoe and rapid transit that reaches deeper into the city than ever before from the Ontario line to, you guessed it, the Scarboro subway extension. The community. So to today, I'm proud to announce a new housing agreement between the government of Canada and the city of Ontario or the city of Ontario. It's a takeover. I don't know. I've got Ford on my mind. You got city of the city of Toronto. Government of Canada, city in Toronto. Let's put this in context. Over the next three years, the government of Canada will invest $2.7 billion. And by the way, that 2.7 billion, that's distinct from what I talked about earlier, that 1.5 billion. We will invest $2.7 billion to build more than 18 housing projects across this city. We're starting by creating more than 5,600 new rental homes that a range broad range of Torononians can afford. North of 1,800 of those homes will be deeply affordable, supportive, or rent controlled. [applause] Thank you. And we're moving fast. You see the shovels behind me. We will have shovels in the ground on 80% 80% of this portfolio. That means more than 4,500 homes by the end of this year. >> [applause] >> As I suggested at the start, every home in this portfolio will be a rental and they span together the entire continuum of rental housing from supportive to affordable homes. And it's a partnership that builds on every component of a healthy housing ecosystem. So what does that mean for Torononians? It means at Scarboro uh at 158 Burough Drive, hundreds of families, seniors, and essential workers will have a home in the heart of the community on the rise behind or beside the civic center and the town center and the new Scarboro Center Station. That's right. coming to [applause] you. It means that the Parkdale Hub, a in the West End, a new 16story complex will move forward, finally creating more affordable places to live in one of the neighborhoods that has been hardest hit by rising rents and rising evictions. Those are just two of the examples of the 18 projects we're announcing today. 18 communities across this city, tens of thousands of new places for Torononians to call home. And we're executing this. We're building through two channels. First, and crucially, is non-market nonprofit housing delivered through Build Canada Homes. And thank you, Anna Balao, for your leadership there. Specifically, we're investing, the federal government is investing more than $310 million to advance nine projects on cityowned land, nearly 1,900 homes, more than 700 meeting the strict definition of affordable housing. That means that rent will cost less than 30% of a household's pre-tax income. All of these projects had been approved in the past. All of these projects were ready to build. Many of them for a long period of time. All of them were stalled for want of financing until today. Canadian government putting up the capital to get them built. And the city of Toronto contributing one of the most valuable resources a city can offer to improve a project's affordability, which is public land. >> [applause] >> And on top of that, the city of Toronto providing more than $530 million in capital and incentives, including a 99-year exemption from municipal and school property taxes. The second channel that we're building on is market rate housing, homes built by the private sector and backed by attractive financing. And this is where the CHC's apartment construction loan program comes in. The federal government through that facility is providing more than $1.8 billion in lowcost financing for nine projects. They will create 3,700 new homes of which a thousand will be affordable. That includes new rental homes near Corktown on Ontario Street and the redevelopment of the former downtown Coach Terminal just steps from City Hall. I've been there. I went to that coach terminal. Um, we're going further still with up to $600 million in additional financing capacity. So that's additional capacity that's available out of that overall amount as so that the city of Toronto can move forward as soon as other opportunities become ready. So what we're announcing today is a big component of what the type of housing and the scale of housing that Toronto needs. Not luxury condos, but homes that people can afford. Places that they can build their lives in. Places near the subway, schools, grocery stores for working families, for students, seniors. Now, as Gregor mentioned a moment ago, we know it's not just about what we build, as important as housing in, but it's also how we build it. So, we're building inclusively at 15 Dennis Avenue. One of the projects we're building a 100 unit indigenousled supportive housing development. We're building in solidarity with union workers. The portfolio alone will support over 2,100 jobs every year during construction. And we're building sustainably. You take the project on Dundas Street West, where there was a parking lot. We're building a state-of-the-art housing development with mass timber construction, geothermal energy, lowcarbon design strategies. Above all, we're building Canadian with Canadian steel, Canadian lumber, Canadian workers. >> [applause] >> Now, I'm warming up to hand over to the mayor. So, I'm going to go back to Toronto's greatness. Think of what drives that greatness. A food scene like nowhere else. Research hospitals that lead the world. A tech industry that rivals any other on the planet. Thriving music, film, entertainment industry. But the fundamental greatness of Toronto comes from its people. And the fact is that too many Torononians have been struggling to afford their rent. Today's announcement is a big part of changing that. By building at scale across the entire rental continuum, we're making Toronto a model. Strong communities, safe communities, communities that people can afford. community. We're building Scarboro strong, Toronto strong, and Canada strong for everyone. And we're just getting started. And with that, [applause] I would like to introduce her worship, the mayor of Toronto, Olivia Cha. [applause] >> Thank you, Prime Minister Carney. I'm excited. Are you? Yeah, we are happy. Thanks to the multibillion dollar announcement we're making today, the homes we are building will give security to tens of thousands of people. Today we're making and we're taking a strong step forward to fulfill a basic promise. If you work here, you should be able to afford to live here. Thank you, Prime Minister, for your commitment to the people of Toronto. Thank you. Thank you, Minister Robinson. Bill Catherome CEO Anna Bal, you have always been a true champion of Toronto. Uh, CMXC CEO Colleen Vog over there. Yes. We're joined by Deputy Mayor Osma Malik. Uh, no. A Ember Molly. Yes. Okay. Okay. Uh, local counselor Michael Thompson. and many of the colleagues. Oh, and councelor Chris Moyes and many of the well actually it's the entire probably 416 Liberal caucus all of the Liberal member of parliament right here. Thank you. >> It's [laughter] it takes all of us coming together to build housing. Uh there are city staff, our city manager, our agencies, the Toronto uh community housing authority at the agencies, partners. We're all here working together to get housing built. Let me tell you a story about Rona. Rona is a professional landscaper. She spent her talents and her skill creating beauty in people's homes. But for years after a bad breakup, she didn't have a secure home of her own. Very depressed. When I met her, she had just moved into a new affordable home in a lowrise building that the Toronto city helped deliver. She was rebuilding her life. I walked into her rooftop. She transformed her building rooftop with plants, flowers, and vegetables. It was just magnificently beautiful. An oasis she built with her neighbors, teaching them to garden alongside her. They shared the harvest, the best tasting tomatoes and herbs in the building, in the entire neighborhood, and built a community along with it. An affordable home gave her hope and transformed her life. Right now, too many families in Scar Bro and across Toronto face an impossible choice. Do they stay close to the kids school or move further away to find something they can afford, plan for the future, or just trying to survive at this moment? And no family should have to choose. Not in a city that prided itself on compassion. Three years ago, when I became mayor, there wasn't much affordable housing being built. I set out together with the city staff a plan to build 65,000 homes for the people of Toronto. The city examined every public site and put it aside for housing, those that are appropriate. We created new incentives, streamline red tape, sped up the approvals, and changed the zoning to allow for more of the housing we need. But the nonprofit sector has no funds to build homes people can afford. So, the federal government stepped in with the housing accelerator funds. And groups like the Cooperative Housing Federation of Canada dared to dream again. because for three decades they weren't able to build anything. And where we are standing today is an example of the progress we made together. This is called Kennedy Green, Canada's largest cooperative housing in a generation. Yes, cooperatives are back. This used to be a city-owned parking lot. In 69 days, we resumed it for housing. That's turbo speed. In record time, not 68. 69 days. Yeah. This will become 612 new rent gear to income affordable and cooperatives homes. the largest purpose-built nonprofit rental co-op in the country. Stable long-term homes for people who keep this city going. And still the housing market remains tight. We all know that. So when the prime minister and the new government was elected, we met in Ottawa. We talked about the need to build more homes and the urgency to get shovels in the ground immediately. The prime minister promised strong action and a couple of months ago, partnering with the provincial government, he delivered. Lowering the cost of building homes by helping the city build our infrastructure. The city can now lower development charges by up to 60%. and a 100% exemption. No development charges, no fees at all for projects that include affordable housing. Yes, that is important. [applause] And today, the prime minister is delivering the second strong action. Today I can tell you if your rent is too high, if you're looking for more spaces to raise a family, if you've been waiting for affordable housing for years, it's coming here in Scabo and across Toronto. We have thousands of shuffles in the ground, cranes in the sky, across the city. We will build homes people can actually afford. And for the first time in a long time, rent is going down. Yes, it is. Because of our collective effort, we are making this progress through our strong partnership. Today's announcement means 5,500 new homes will be built through both funding and lowcost financing. We're making more projects viable in these tough economic times. And we aren't waiting for years. As you heard the prime minister said, shuffles hit the ground this year and that's worthy of celebration because we need the jobs. We need the housing right now. We're moving with urgency because people running out of rent money at the end of the month cannot wait. Couples delaying having children because of high housing costs cannot wait either. Right now, our non-market housing sector makes up 3.5% of the housing system and is only half the size of those of our OECD peers. Prime Minister, your groundbreaking task force report you penned in March 2024 released a rate four out of 10 homes built needs to be non-market affordable homes. And we certainly have our work cut out for us. But I know we're building Canada strong. We will keep building. And for Rona and for so many families like her and affordable homes meant peace of mind, security, a stable foundation to build from, hope for the future. Prime Minister Carney, Minister Robertson, and the BL, thank you so very, very much. >> [applause] >> All right. When the GO train passes, we will now begin our press conference. Please state your outlet and your name. Should I go ahead? >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Hello, Prime Minister Manid with the Canadian Press. Um, good afternoon. Um, the US is trying to dismantle the International Criminal Court. Um, and Washington wants to ally allies to withdraw membership and funding. Are you doing anything to defend the ICC? And, uh, why haven't you spoken up for the Canadian judge under American sanctions? Uh well, first uh Canada is a a proud member of the International Criminal Court. Uh we uh we support it with funding. We support it with personnel. We support it with our values. We support it with our actions. Uh and we will continue to do so. It it it provides an essential service in a world that is is more dangerous, more divided. In fact, in many respects, uh its responsibilities are ever greater. uh you know I think you can see the attachment to which the government uh places uh to these values and and the rule of law and the importance of rule of law in the appointments that we have been making >> the Canadian judge >> and the judge will provide support uh as needed and we work with uh with our American uh colleagues on a variety of issues uh to work to achieve results but our our support for to the ICC is unequivocal. Thank you. >> All right, next question. >> Hi, Prime Minister. Rob Benzy from the Toronto Star. Um, I just want to ask about Billy Bishop Airport. Um, you had been signaling, I think, the last time you were with the mayor and and Premier Ford, you had interest in that project. You called it an interesting project. You've kind of changed your view. I don't >> interesting is uh >> well, that's what you said. I'm just >> interesting has has a quite wide range of meanings. >> Chinese curse. I know. I guess interesting times. But uh no, I I wanted to ask you though, you've changed your tune or you or at least you've changed the policy so that you're not going to expand Billy Bishop Airport. Uh is does that mean categorically that there will never be commuter jets there? >> So, uh a couple of things. One, uh look, the we have a series of challenges uh we all do, uh in in Canada and Toronto and and part of those challenges come from success. Part of those challenges come from I'm going to refer back to my remarks Toronto's greatness. Uh one of the core is building enough affordable housing and building it now. And this is what today is very much about. Uh another form of that challenge is transportation. Uh transportation getting in and out of the city. You see a series of announcements that been made. In fact, Premier Ford and I will be highlighting the Ontario line uh later today uh and the progress that's being made there. But it also of course includes air and other forms of transportation. people coming to the GTA uh more broadly from elsewhere in the province, elsewhere in Canada, uh elsewhere from around the world. And what we need is uh and what we're developing at the federal level is a comprehensive approach uh that addresses all forms of transport uh the investment the scale of what could be required over the course of the next quarter century. Uh that includes Pearson, that includes regional airports, uh that includes Alto highspeed rail, that includes the GO network which we uh which we just witnessed. Um and a series of investments uh in in cooperation with all uh levels of government. Uh Billy Bishop is part of a much bigger picture. Uh and so while uh possible uh well the the the muted ideas for uh Billy Bishop are interesting. They're were interesting in a broader context. We did not have a policy. So I'm going to take issue with your premise of your question. We did not have a policy. What we had was an idea that was proposed um and then we did what government should do which is to consult. And we consulted the people uh of Toronto. uh it was very clear uh result of that consultation uh and we took the view uh as we stand by that uh our investment in Billy Bishop will be for safety reasons um and then set out very clear criteria around uh noise around protection of nature uh pristine heritage spots and others uh that have to take in account. So the fundamental point to finish where I started which is this is that question that issue is part of a much bigger set of issues and it's on us to be addressing the much bigger set of issues. We have elements of those uh solutions uh but we we will be providing more in due course >> but but if I may prime minister you didn't answer whether it means an end there will be no commuter jets at Billy Bishop ever. >> Well that's what we I mean ever is a long time and forever is a long time. So you but look there is clear criteria clear criteria on noise clear criteria on uh protecting the environment in pristine spots clear criteria on housing uh and as I just said maybe at some length but let's make it clear it's a small part of a much bigger puzzle and we need to focus on those other puzzle pieces in the context of serving the people of uh the GTA people of CA Ontario the people of Canada and the people who want to come to Canada. >> Next question. >> Hi, Prime Minister Barbara with a politics. Um, did you ever get to the point of telling Premier Doug Ford that he would move forward with the Billy Bishop's expansion? No. And do you think do you think that uh the fact that some Ontario MPPPS um are raising concerns about the outspeed rail project right now is some sort of retaliation? >> Uh I look I'll just refer to my previous answer. There is a bigger issue set of issues uh that are the the product of success success of Toronto, success of Ontario, success of Canada uh which is that there is a demand for more and more and we can see you can never predict exactly with certainty but we can see that those demands will continue to increase uh for transportation. So we need a comprehensive a holistic uh solution uh to air those in public uh and the components of of those solutions. That's what the government's doing. Uh an expansion of Pearson is part of that. Alto is part of that. I think greater use of regional Billy Bishop is not a regional. Regional airports could be part of that. Make uh the investments we're making in GO train uh is part of that as well. So we look at the look at it in the round. >> All right. Next question. >> Appreciate it. >> Hello Prime Minister. Nathaniel Dove from Global News. I have a non-billy Bishop question for you. >> Congratulations. Uh the British Prime Minister Andy Burnham said that FIFA President Giani Infantino is the wrong person to lead football. He spent a lot of time with Mr. Infantino recently at the World Cup. Do you think he should lead FIFA? And if not, who else would you support? Uh Victor Montaglani, Canadian FIFA vice president? >> Uh okay. Uh well, the first thing is that uh I want to pay tribute. I'm I'm going to answer your question, but I I I want to take the opportunity to pay tribute to the mayor. uh pay tribute to the premier uh pay tribute to the first responders, all the volunteers who made the World Cup here such a success. It was absolute knockout success in Toronto and uh and again the best of Toronto and hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people and hundreds of millions of people would have witnessed it on TV. A bunch witnessed it in person and they bring back nothing but great stories about the people in this great city. So that's that's the first thing. Uh the second thing, look, uh I've run a few organizations in my time. Uh the idea that proper governance is not to disclose to your closest adviserss, your chief operating officer, uh your fellow board members, uh something of consequence that you're even considering, let alone proposing. Uh that you know that that's fatal uh should be fatal. Uh and you lose confidence uh in that individual. They have their own procedures for making those determinations. But certainly I don't have confidence in uh Mr. Infantino after this point. I uh given given what transpired and given the nature of what transpired. Uh look, I'll give you an example. Carlos Cordderero is someone I've known for more than three decades, very high integrity individual and he he was his adviser and had expertise in all the aspects of what was proposed and he was not consulted. This is not how you run uh any business, a small business uh let alone uh something that is is a global responsibility like football. >> And sorry to my last part of my question, would you support uh >> well it's look I he's an exceptional individual. He's credit to Canada, credit to football, done a very good job uh in his role at Conqueraf, but this again I'll defer to governance. I mean, there are those who make these decisions and they're not uh they're not prime ministers, but uh he's someone I know well and have tremendous respect for. >> Next question. >> Loves the game. Loves the game. >> Hello, Mr. Prime Minister. Jeff Knight with Western Standard. Um Alberta Premier Daniel Smith has called for concrete reforms to the equalization formula, including ending the GDP growth escalator. Uh you've said before the formula will be reviewed before the 2029 renewal, but have you actually supported any specific changes or is it your position simply to support the status quo until then? >> Well, we're not going to I mean we have an equalization uh agreement in place uh governments rely on those formula in setting uh in setting their policies and and so that predictability uh and that uh financing is valuable and yes, we're going to keep it in place. The review is for 2029 is the next update. Um but let me bring it back down to where we are today. Uh which is uh fundamental principles uh in Canada uh and a fundamental principle that drives this country. Uh many Canadians in their personal lives but also in uh government is that Canadians uh should have access to comparable services. All Canadians, health care services, education, we all have access to the same education. Part of where the challenge comes in and what we're tackling today is access to housing. As the mayor uh said a moment ago, uh the ability to live near to where you work uh to not have to move uh if you're having a child or your child's in school and you have another child and have that move. So that's not the level of equalization, but it's the responsibility to use all our levers and that's what we're seeing here in an aspect of the housing market so that Canadians all Canadians have that opportunity. >> All right, next question. Fore necessar. Washington. Constructive. America Canada. Next question. >> Sure. Okay. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> Hi, Prime Minister. Laura Stone, Glob and Mail. Uh, on the trade front, um, we understand that there have been detailed discussions on steel and aluminum tariffs, but significantly less on autos. So, would you accept a deal that punts auto tariffs to the more extensive USMCA negotiations next year? >> We we uh, Canada's been very clear. We want all 232s addressed, all strategic sectors, which uh, to be for clarity. But it's not being it's not being discussed. >> Well, you don't know that. Uh you don't know that. I know what's being discussed. Um I'm part of those discussions. So Canada's position is as I just stated uh and that's what we say in the room. >> Next question. >> Checker with Turkish Voice of Canada. Thank you, Prime Minister. So your today's announcement is not only about the houses that's going to be built here. It's like it's about also about the people who's going to live in it and who's going to pay for it, right? So, uh you mentioned how this city became the greatest with migration. I I'll give you a educational and professional capacity of a specific cohort. Approximately 88% completed post-secary education 56% holding a bachelor's degree 21% master's degree 5% a PhD and second 6.7 a college diploma remarkable right so this group includes engineers health care professionals teachers academics IT specialists uh experienced business and finance professionals they are currently employed across Canada in key sectors and I am talking about 6,000 plus Turkish nationals whose temporary work permits TS 2023 are expiring. A woman named Islam Shahin is currently walking 500 kilometers from Toronto to Ottawa just to make sure to draw attention to their situation. Does your government know how many of those individuals are productively employed and um care about the existence and continuation of this kind of new but also well settled workforce that is also growing roots with their kids in Canada. Uh so thank you for that and let me uh be clear that uh the the woman's situation you referenced the 6,000 others uh or the other people in this situation regardless of where they uh they've come from to this country who are who are working who are settled uh perhaps they have a a family here and the children's school. uh we took steps a few months ago to take a number of those individuals who'd been uh in those situations for a long period of time uh and would be on a pathway ultimately to uh greater permanent residency to move them towards that pathway which meant that uh they able to stay. We continually look at this uh we look at it though within the context of our discussions with the provinces and with the capacity the the the ability of Canada to uh whether it's a city or to uh to welcome them and provide the the housing the services and the and the life that uh uh people deserve in uh in Canada. So, uh, the system, we've taken back control of the system, got on top of the numbers. I can give you them all. I can almost have as long as your preamble to your question going through the numbers, but you've got people standing behind you. Um, so, and now working towards getting at a more sustainable uh, process from there. So, we're working on it. >> All right, last question. Daniel, >> no, no, we need we need to >> I'll make it quick. Uh, good afternoon, Prime Minister. Dave Owen, CBC National News. Uh we're now two weeks from President Trump's threatened 50% tariffs on Canadian goods. How likely is it that you'll be able to fend those tariffs off? >> Uh we're see we're in the middle of negotiations and uh the minister LeBlanc uh Janice Shared who's our chief negotiator are in Washington as Ambassador Wisman obviously there uh in a series of meetings uh related to this. Uh I'm very involved in this as well. uh and we'll see uh but I'll refer back to my previous answer in terms of the scope of what Canada wants to move forward on which is across all strategic sectors including and the specific question from Miss Stone I think was uh was about autos as well and very much at the core of what we're talking about. Thank you >> Danny last question. Hi uh Prime Minister Ki um I want to ask about the uh spying charges on the in in in Belgian uh so uh have you explained to the authorities in Belgian and NATO allies about how the government uh you know proceeds and miss the security risk that is my first question and I think uh do do you think uh these uh security screening process for the international stuffer need to be reformed? Uh can you explain? Well, the first thing is anytime you have a situation uh of uh you should take uh you take take stock and take lessons from this. Uh the second thing is look, it's an active investigation. So I'm limited in what I can say. Uh the only thing I would add cryptically is that the Canadian officials have been involved from the start. Draw your own conclusions. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Second is our press conference.